Zeitgeist Tour

[Rolmos]

Hummm... Suena bastante bien, esperemos que sea "legit" de ése.

NUevas noticias de ese mismo fan. Quiero creer que son ciertas ...

Alerta, SPOILER! de asunto desconocido:

"I guess this is the most interesting stuff that we talked about. I walked into the airport and saw the band and the crew waiting at the gate. It was about 40 minutes before the boarding time. Nearly panicked but tried to play it cool, went over to say hello and thank them for last nights show and mentioned that I'll be in Helsinki too, to which Billy said that "sorry it's going to be the same show" jokingly. They seemed to be in a good mood and willing to talk to me. We talked about traveling, early flights, kids (Jimmy and I both have kids who turn 2 this month), Finland, some old shows etc.

Someone asked what I thought of the gong at the beginning of Superchrist. They said that Jimmy just had to get a gong for that part, everyone seemed to think it was really funny... I said it was awesome, but should've been bigger, like Led Zeppelin... Jimmy said that the small one sounds better... they joked around saying that JC is the only one who would choose a gong based on the sound. Apparently it's really loud.

Billy asked if I'd seen the Superchrist video and what I thought about it. I said that I'd seen it and thought it was funny, something different from usual boring band videos. He then said "so you got it?". I said yeah, it's kind of a joke. He said that their "label used to pay 800k for a video during Mellon Collie days but there's not that kind of money anymore and then people bitch on the internet and don't get it that it's an obvious joke and expect the same kind of videos... And they don't even pay for the music anymore (laughs)"

Billy started talking about what they're going to do next. They're gonna start putting out their archives, starting with some Gish/pre-Gish stuff. They don't have a record contract anymore, so they're gonna put them out the way they want. He said that Warner was really bad, no promotion for Zeitgeist especially in europe, the same with Zwan and the solo album. Emi was really good but Warner has been horrible. They own their own catalog now, can make whatever kind of cd/packages they like, for example everything from the size of booklet (mentioned American Gothic) had to be approved by label previously. So there hasn't been much freedom. But now he seemed really excited about the future.

To go along with the first deluxe edition (he mentioned like 89 stuff, demos etc) they're gonna play a Gish tour. Playing the same kind of shows that they played during that era, not only Gish stuff, but some early songs (again mentioned 89), plus I think he meant Geek, Silverfuck etc. He also mentioned that they actually played Geek, I Am One and Bury Me at the Stockholm soundcheck. I asked if they want to play those in Helsinki, but no luck...

They hope to do the same also for Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie, release some rare stuff and play shows of those eras, he mentioned that it will be fun to play songs like Silverfuck, since they were very different from the SD era to the 45 minute Mellon Collie versions.

He also talked about the current setlist, that it was the first time they actually have a set that they designed to appeal to both hardcore fans and the casual fans who want the hits. Anyway, he said that the Gish tour will be for the hardcore fans, smaller shows, more expensive tickets, so the casual fans wont be there... there will be about 20 shows in us / europe combined, so it will be only like London, Paris and something else in Europe. This will be late in the year or possibly early next year.

Once they were about to start letting people in the plane I stood in the line before Jeff and talked to him about how it's been for him playing in SP. He seems like a really nice guy and enjoys playing in the pumpkins. Talked about the tour so far, he said that they are definitely much better band now than they were last summer.

We mostly talked about general stuff (traveling, airports, what's there to do in Helsinki, Ice-hockey, etc) He said that there's no tour plans for the summer, Billy is going to start writing/recording some new stuff. I asked if the new guys are involved, he said that he's "going to help Billy as much as needed."

[Dagger]

Suena muy bien y real todo. Esperemos que Billy no lo deje a medias.

[Stumble-ine]

NUevas noticias de ese mismo fan. Quiero creer que son ciertas ...

Alerta, SPOILER! de asunto desconocido:

" "label used to pay 800k for a video during Mellon Collie days but there's not that kind of money anymore and then people bitch on the internet and don't get it that it's an obvious joke and expect the same kind of videos... And they don't even pay for the music anymore (laughs)"

Anyway, he said that the Gish tour will be for the hardcore fans, smaller shows, more expensive tickets, so the casual fans wont be there...

Vale! Mola el proyecto y tal, pero 2 cosas:
- La gente no sólo se descarga gratuitamente su disco sino el de todos los grupos del mundo, así que no justifique el video cutre con que no hay pasta por eso...que además por lo que se viene leyendo en el hilo del video...al final veo a la peña poniéndolo para los Grammy o algo...
- Entradas MÁS caras? eso cuanto es, 70, 80 €? Ya le vale... yo creo que con los 50 de ultimamente ya se libra de esos 'casual fans' y de unos pocos de 'hardcore fans' también.

A parte de eso, a ver si es verdad que mete manos a la obra en el asunto, peo con peluca XD

[ktoto]

Suena genial y bastante verídico.

Puede que sea cierta la conversación, pero a saber si se materializa eso de recuperar etapas pasadas de los SP. Sinceramente no sé si realmente querrá eso Corgan. Por mi encantado, pero puede ser doloro (para él) mirar tanto al pasado, sobre todo por las memorias (buenas y malas) que traerá de los antiguos miembros de la banda.

Yo creo que si hacen 3 o 4 conciertos en Europa de ese palo llenarían en un sitio pequeño aunque las entradas fuesen más caras. Yo tengo claro que no me pierdo ninguna gira del calvo (me perdí la del Future Embrace y no me lo perdonaré en la vida), así que conmigo pueden contar. Aunque reconozco que respondo muy alejado de toda lógica y razón, pero es lo que hay, no lo puedo evitar 

No trago con toda la mierda de mil versiones que han sacado del Zeitgeist, pero por un concierto pago casi lo que sea.

[nspaa]

Holas!!
Ayer llegue de Oslo del mega concierto q ofrecio el calvo aya por el norte...
El setlist acojonante por supuesto, aunke me falto wound (q se sustituyo x daydrem) y i dont mind (q se cambio por un temazo cover de scorpions q tengo q averiguar como se llama...)

Bueno ahora viene lo bueno... Jajaja a mitad del concierto billy se puso a dar las gracias al publico y a decir q q bonito era noruega y las noruegas... Total... q en ese momento sako yo mi mega bandera de España y va el calvo (y señalandola!!!) me pregunta q de donde es!!!! Yo claro to loco gritando como un cabron... SPAIN!!!!! SPAIN!!!!!!!! y va y me dice ''ehh??!'' (xq no se enteraba de na...) y dice el tio... ''creo q debe ser la bandera de la republica de corgan''

Total q entre esto y el directo de stellar q se me salto una lagrima fue el mejor momento de mi vida!!! Por cierto... esta q se sale... el calvo esta q se sale... Desde luego el tio lo dio todo y el spektrum estaba lleno hasta arriba!!! Vamos el mejor concierto de mi vida!!

[Waznei]

Hummm... Suena bastante bien, esperemos que sea "legit" de ése.

NUevas noticias de ese mismo fan. Quiero creer que son ciertas ...

Alerta, SPOILER! de asunto desconocido:

"I guess this is the most interesting stuff that we talked about. I walked into the airport and saw the band and the crew waiting at the gate. It was about 40 minutes before the boarding time. Nearly panicked but tried to play it cool, went over to say hello and thank them for last nights show and mentioned that I'll be in Helsinki too, to which Billy said that "sorry it's going to be the same show" jokingly. They seemed to be in a good mood and willing to talk to me. We talked about traveling, early flights, kids (Jimmy and I both have kids who turn 2 this month), Finland, some old shows etc.

Someone asked what I thought of the gong at the beginning of Superchrist. They said that Jimmy just had to get a gong for that part, everyone seemed to think it was really funny... I said it was awesome, but should've been bigger, like Led Zeppelin... Jimmy said that the small one sounds better... they joked around saying that JC is the only one who would choose a gong based on the sound. Apparently it's really loud.

Billy asked if I'd seen the Superchrist video and what I thought about it. I said that I'd seen it and thought it was funny, something different from usual boring band videos. He then said "so you got it?". I said yeah, it's kind of a joke. He said that their "label used to pay 800k for a video during Mellon Collie days but there's not that kind of money anymore and then people bitch on the internet and don't get it that it's an obvious joke and expect the same kind of videos... And they don't even pay for the music anymore (laughs)"

Billy started talking about what they're going to do next. They're gonna start putting out their archives, starting with some Gish/pre-Gish stuff. They don't have a record contract anymore, so they're gonna put them out the way they want. He said that Warner was really bad, no promotion for Zeitgeist especially in europe, the same with Zwan and the solo album. Emi was really good but Warner has been horrible. They own their own catalog now, can make whatever kind of cd/packages they like, for example everything from the size of booklet (mentioned American Gothic) had to be approved by label previously. So there hasn't been much freedom. But now he seemed really excited about the future.

To go along with the first deluxe edition (he mentioned like 89 stuff, demos etc) they're gonna play a Gish tour. Playing the same kind of shows that they played during that era, not only Gish stuff, but some early songs (again mentioned 89), plus I think he meant Geek, Silverfuck etc. He also mentioned that they actually played Geek, I Am One and Bury Me at the Stockholm soundcheck. I asked if they want to play those in Helsinki, but no luck...

They hope to do the same also for Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie, release some rare stuff and play shows of those eras, he mentioned that it will be fun to play songs like Silverfuck, since they were very different from the SD era to the 45 minute Mellon Collie versions.

He also talked about the current setlist, that it was the first time they actually have a set that they designed to appeal to both hardcore fans and the casual fans who want the hits. Anyway, he said that the Gish tour will be for the hardcore fans, smaller shows, more expensive tickets, so the casual fans wont be there... there will be about 20 shows in us / europe combined, so it will be only like London, Paris and something else in Europe. This will be late in the year or possibly early next year.

Once they were about to start letting people in the plane I stood in the line before Jeff and talked to him about how it's been for him playing in SP. He seems like a really nice guy and enjoys playing in the pumpkins. Talked about the tour so far, he said that they are definitely much better band now than they were last summer.

We mostly talked about general stuff (traveling, airports, what's there to do in Helsinki, Ice-hockey, etc) He said that there's no tour plans for the summer, Billy is going to start writing/recording some new stuff. I asked if the new guys are involved, he said that he's "going to help Billy as much as needed."

Pues suena todo muy guay. Aunque siguen sin convencerme con lo de los videoclips. Puede que antes costaran 800000 dólares, pero podías ver en qué se habían gastado el dinero. Claro, si no hay una gran compañía que ponga la pasta también me parece normal que no la pongan ellos (vamos, por rico que fuera no me dejaría casi un millón de dólares en un videoclip bonito). Yo la verdad pasaría de hacer ninguno, si es que las cosas están así. Queda más digno.

Lo de la "gira gish" suena guay y yo desde luego estaría allí; es una especie de viaje al pasado, es algo que no tiene precio. Iría sí o sí. Me chocaría un poco que no llevara melenas y que no estuvieran el chino y darcy, ya puestos, pero menos da una piedra. Eso sí, ya veo los titulares de la "prensa" musical si llegan a hacerlo: si los tachan de acabados hoy, no quiero imaginar si se arrancan con una gira revival.

Y lo más bonito y lo más interesante con diferencia, para mí, lo de sacar a la luz material antiguo y hacer ediciones de lujo. Que empiecen ya, que no lo dejen para luego. Que no pare la máquina! Hoy me ha dado por escuchar joyitas como Under Your Spell, There it Goes o Stray Cat Blues y.... brrr! pensar que puede haber más cosas perdidas da vértigo.

[molul]

Lo de las reediciones con material extra  me da esperanzas de que reediten la discografía en vinilo (por favor Corgan, ya que vuelves al pasado, tráete unos LPs XD).

[Jetfil]

Si es para editar demos y descartes que casi seguro tenemos ya, que se los guarde.

Ahora, si hablamos de cosas realmente inéditas, como conciertos del 99, dvd's varios... soy todo oídos

[Iokanaan]

I have a dream..."Jennifer Ever" en directo. Y yo para verlo. :__)

[Dagger]

I have a dream..."Jennifer Ever" en directo. Y yo para verlo. :__)

Jojojo Chavalote, en ese sueño te acompaño sin dudarlo. :´)

[machina]

yo por un concierto de la era Gish pagaria lo que no tengo....
y que empiece con la bateria de I AM ONE... , siga con SIVA y luego Rhinoceros eso es la muerte pelona. (vamos, el Gish enterito...)

es que la version bakaláctica de Daydream se me hizo muy corta

ioka, creo que en el viaje q hicimos a paris comentamos la cancion jennifer ever, verla en directo sería lo mejón de lo mejón.

[Jetfil]

No mamen... MO MAMEN 

A ver... dejen asimilarlo...

¡¡¡Carajo!!! No tengo palabras... Y menos tendré si confirman las fechas en Guadalajara y Monterrey... Ahhhh moriré...

Este es tu año drowned! 2 nuevos conciertos el mes que viene en Mexico, adivina donde

http://smashingpumpkins.com/news_3339

Alerta, SPOILER! de asunto desconocido:

Monday April 14, 2008 - Monterrery, Mexico - Monterrey Arena

Wednesday April 16, 2008 - Guadalajara, Mexico - Guadalajara Arena

Pide que se pasen por Murcia xD

[Mizar]

xDD Y ya que estás, a lindsay lohan desnuda haciendo el puente y andando hacia atras xDD

"hola, soy lindsay lohan y así andan los cangrejos" x_D

Bueno, enhorabuena, a ver cuando se pasan por aquiii ^^

[El Sol]

¿Por qué en la página de Ticketmaster (México) aparece lo siguiente; The Smashing Pumpkins With Queens Of The Stone Age
Conciertos - Rock/Metal? ¿ALGUIÉN SABE ALGO?

[Zeitgeist]

se confirmó Guadalajara y Monterrey (ciudades Méxicanas)
AÚN ESPERO QUE DIGAN CUALQUIER PAÍS DE SUDAMERICA